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Fraud Spotters: Cash Back At Closing Defined (Builder Kickbacks?)

FSI BadgeI have noticed there are some misunderstandings about which cash back at closing is fraud and which is not.

Teri Eckholm recently blogged "Mortgage Fraud - Important Reminders for Buyers, Sellers and Agents" and one of the comments from Neal Bloom which included "jack up the price so that the buyer can get the seller to contribute towards closing costs"

Let's clarify something here: If, during the negotiations for the transaction, the buyer asks the seller if they will contribute the lender allowed closing costs to close the deal and the seller says "yes, if you will pay (for example) $206,000 instead of $200,000 I will contribute $6000 to closing" and - very important and - the appraisal can support that value increase this is not mortgage fraud.

The big litmus test is this: did any of the proceeds of the loan go back to the borrower(s) or to any third party company or unlicensed "locator", "bird-dog", "consultant" (whatever) for any reason? Were there any liens at the closing that were not recorded with the county records department? (Unrecorded liens is an old old trick that just keeps popping up.) Were any contractors paid at closing for work allegedly done on the property?

The above are all RED FLAGS for mortgage fraud. But they are not, by any stretch, the only ones. This posting is only about Cash Back At Closing Defined.

Clarifying another misperception: Just make sure it is on the HUD-1. This will not help. Although it may be a surprise to you there are underwriters, closing agents, mortgage brokers, real estate agents, etc., who will allow red flags to get through closing. That's why 80% of mortgage fraud involves insider collusion.

CSIFor several years now during my Mortgage Fraud Detection and Prevention Workshops I have used the example of the popular television show CSI. Where Gil Grissom asks, "what does the evidence say?" I use the same terms only I ask, "What do the documents say?

Mortgage fraud is serious, serious business. I have been damaged by mortgage fraud in a very personal way because I have been defrauded. Even though we have very strict guidelines and checks and balances there were times in the past when a couple of files made it through our QC and through our investor's QC. Unknown to the general public when that happens there is a lot of finger pointing and positioning and even legal parrying that can cost the originating lender and the investor thousands of dollars in time and resources. (Just one of the many reasons we keep very detailed records of every conversation, email, fax, etc.)

But what about Builder Incentives?

Personally, as a lender, I do not like them. However, because builders do have such a great profit margin in a hot market it is possible for them to have concessions from their 10% to 30% profit margins. What I do not like about it is the same reason cash back is mortgage fraud: it does artificially increase the loan amount. In other words if the builder was not rebating the buyer buy paying their mortgage payment for 12 months (or whatever) then the sales price and thus the loan amount could be reduced by the same amount as the rebate. Why is this allowed to continue? Probably because it has yet to be challenged in the right way - and everyone involved is making more money because it's a higher sales/loan value.

This is the same thing that makes paying a bird-dog (locator, consultant) from the proceeds of the loan mortgage fraud: it artificially raises the sales price and the loan amount. Here is an example: a real estate broker recently received an offer of $1,800,000 on a home she had listed for $1,400,000 although the appraisal (very recent comps on the same street and all over the neighborhood easily supported the higher value) indicated a value of $1,990,000 - She called me and asked what I thought. I told her I am not paid to think but there is a fish in the cupcake here.

The first thing I would do as a QC agent at a lender is notice the listing price compared to the sales price. Then I would make a note to question the listing agent about other offers. If there were other offers of 1.45, 1.5, 1.55, 1.65 etc., then I could lower that red flag because I knew the property was hot and it was being bid up. However, when I asked if she had received any other offers she said, "no".

Suspecting what was happening I asked to see a copy of the offer letter. There was nothing unusual about it except everything.
1. There was no licensed real estate agent involved
2. The person faxing the offer was not the buyer
3. The buyer lived in California the property was in Georgia
4. The offer was marked as "CASH"
5. There were no previous phone calls or other communications ... just a faxed offer
6. The closing date was requested in 10 days (certainly do-able but unusual)
7. There were no appraisal or inspection contingencies

So here was my list of questions for the offer maker:
1. Who are you to the buyer?
2. If the buyer is in California and the property is in Georgia is this a hold or a flip and if it is a hold who is going to be managing the property?
3. Show me the money - I need a bank certified letter of funds.
4. Why are you offering $400,000 more than the property is worth?

And the response:
1. I am a consultant finding properties for investors.
2. It's a flip.
3. Actually "we're" still trying to get the money together.
4. Oh, my fee is $400,000

Not. Ever. Going. To. Happen.

We called the buyer who's name and address but not contact information was on the offer. It helps to have investigative skills and tools. Once we discovered there was a lender involved and they had pre-approved the deal at $1,800,000 we called the Loss Mitigation Department at the lender. We told the lender and the buyer the entire deal. The property closed with a real offer, a pre-approval letter from a grateful lender at the real price and the involvement of a Georgia licensed real estate agent. Could anyone have been guilty of fraud if this had closed? You bet. The seller, the seller's agent, the loan officer, and the underwriter. The bird-dog? Probably not. Disgusting, eh?

The property was sold at $1,400,000 - nothing paid by the seller except the real estate fees. 

In review here, like it or not, is the short list of what the lender's quality assurance investigation team looks for (in addition to a hundred other things) to discover misrepresentation of the use of the lender's funds:
1. Listing price to sales price
2. Sales history of the subject property
3. Disbursements to any third parties (anyone other than the seller)
4. Mysterious (unexplained) large deposit into the buyer's account
5. Liens to be paid at closing not discovered during the title search

Ken Cook - Georgia - FHA, USDA, VA and Conventional Home Loans (678) 439-8683 NMLS ID 208452

My employer: AmericaHomeKey, Inc., 2870 Johnson Ferry Road, 150, Marietta, GA 30062 NMLS ID 102930. Georgia residential mortgage licensee 23191. Equal housing lender.

14 commentsKen "FHA" Cook • March 07 2007 10:50AM

Comments

Hi Ken, Good information as usual. There is soo much confusion in our industry about what is fraud and what's not fraud. Bottom line, if you have to keep it from the lender, it's fraud. Full discloosure on anything related to the transaction or any funds that come from the transaction. IMO. Everyone's always looking for the "gray" area.
Posted by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc over 3 years ago
I love reading your blog - thanks - keep educating me...
Posted by Central Oregon Real Estate | Broker Thesa Chambers, Licensed in Oregon (RE/MAX Sunset Realty) over 3 years ago
Thanks for the info-I spend a good deal of time reading HUD-1 statements since in NC the real estate agent is ultimately responsible for its accuracy-NOT the closing attorney.  Scary thought.
Posted by Leigh Brown Charlotte NC Broker/Owner (RE/MAX Signature Properties) over 3 years ago

Thank you Bryant and Theresa. I do try and keep it interesting or informative. No I don't - that's not true. I don't try - I just write from my heart. Never the other end. Well, that's not true either. I often write from the other end, too. I just have to remember to wait before I hit that submit button. 

Wow, Leigh. You should be compensated more highly for that burden. 

Posted by Ken Cook, FHA Home Loans 678-439-8683 over 3 years ago
An unauthorized link was placed by an unregistered member and has been removed. However, in response to the linked article: A licensed agent who accepts a reasonable commission (generally regarded as 3.5% or less for each for the buyer's agent and the listing agent) can do anything they wish with the commission with very few exceptions. This is entirely different than a seller, in addition to paying legitimate agency commissions, rebating funds or items of value NOT attached to the home. 
Posted by Ken Cook, FHA Home Loans 678-439-8683 over 2 years ago
You said "any money coming for the transaction to the buyer is illegal and fraud". Get the story straight, Ken. A buyer's agent can rebate his/her commission to the buyer and that can equate to thousands back.
Posted by Anonymous over 2 years ago
Okay - at least identify yourself so you'll have some modicum of credibility. As a LENDER my story can't be any straighter. As a FRAUD INVESTIGATION SPECIALIST I back it up. The money you are talking about comes from the COMMISSION PAID TO AN AGENT - completely different than THE PROCEEDS OF THE SALE. Agents can do just about anything they wish with their commission.
Posted by Ken Cook, FHA Home Loans 678-439-8683 over 2 years ago
Well said. Thank You for the clarification.
Posted by Anonymous over 2 years ago

Ken,

I have a handicapped client looking at a new home. He needs a chair lift installed. The builder is not familiar with this type of installation so he wants to escrow the funds to be completed post closing - roughly 3K. The lender doesn't want that. What are our options? Would there be any leniency for disabled individuals on this issue?

Thanks

Posted by Bob Rainy over 2 years ago
Bob - this is a highly subjective topic so I really cannot offer an exacting opinion except to say that if this is a 100% C/LTV acquisition many lenders will not allow repair escrows. If, on the other hand, the buyer is contributing a down payment on the property this is unusual. My recommendation to the builder would be to forget about the loan and just put it in the sales contract that he will install the lift or have it installed within 3 business days after the closing. Make it a part of the contract and not a part of the loan - meaning don't assign a value to it and show it on the HUD as though the lender is paying for it. It would be a wise sales move on the builder's part to do so.  Don't make the value higher or lower with or without the chair lift. Just sell the home as is and put the chair lift in after the closing as a part of the deal. "If you buy this house I will have the chair lift installed for you." Sounds like, "If you buy this house I will plant a pecan tree in the front yard." The bottom line is the lender does not want to pay for the chair lift when they buy the home - they want the builder to pay for it from his/her profit.
Posted by Ken Cook, FHA Home Loans 678-439-8683 over 2 years ago

I see. We can specify in the contract that the builder will install a chair lift (part number XXXX) within 3 days after closing. There will be no mention of value. I'll run this past the lender. 

Thanks!

Posted by Bob Rainy over 2 years ago

Personally, as a lender, I do not like them. However, because builders do have such a great profit margin in a hot market it is possible for them to have concessions from their 10% to 30% profit margins. What I do not like about it is the same reason cash back is mortgage fraud: it does artificially increase the loan amount. In other words if the builder was not rebating the buyer buy paying their mortgage payment for 12 months (or whatever) then the sales price and thus the loan amount could be reduced by the same amount as the rebate. Why is this allowed to continue? Probably because it has yet to be challenged in the right way - and everyone involved is making more money because it's a higher sales/loan value.

Ken,

In response to your position, I think it's also important to point out that reducing the sales price of a builder's home can also harm others as well. For instance, other buyers within a particular subdivision who have bought at higher prices and their respective lenders are hurt when you force a price reduction on your particular transaction. However, with that said, a builder should only offer the allowable concessions and that means waiting for a buyer instead of inducing a buyer.

While I applaud your dedication to fighting mortgage fraud, the aforementioned scenario presents another conundrum.

Posted by Rob over 2 years ago

Where was I to miss this post?

Posted by Neal Bloom-Realtor ® Assoc.-CRS-Weston FL (Keller Williams Properties) over 2 years ago

Ken--My point was to agents, if it is not on the HUD it is fraud. Often these contributions at the final hour are not on the HUD! Agents think they are getting the deal through and covering themselves by writing an addendum. But if that addendum does not go to the underwriter it is fraud.

Many good agents are not aware of this...Never meant my post to be all inclusive! :)

Posted by Teri Eckholm, REALTOR® Anoka County Acreage & Lakeshore Homes (REMAX Specialists) over 2 years ago

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